Comments on: Behringer Showcases Plans To Co-Opt Yamaha, Roland, Sequential Legacies At 2025 NAMM Show https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/ Synthesizer and electronic music news, synth and music software reviews and more! Fri, 07 Feb 2025 15:53:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Mike Hunter https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1531852 Fri, 07 Feb 2025 15:53:14 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1531852 Need I remind everyone how many blatant Fender Stratocaster clones are out there…. no one complains… hmmm…

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By: ContinuumMusic https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1531758 Thu, 06 Feb 2025 19:31:40 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1531758 I just bought my first behringer knockoff synth yesterday and it’s excellent. I sold my overpriced and awkward Moog DFAM and bought the EDGE – The Boog BFAM
It’s fantastic. Identical to the DFAM in almost every way, except it has working midi and the sequencer resets on stop.

Winner! 135 quid!

As a consumer I am very happy. However I toally get that Behringer is opportunistic and agressive and appear to not ‘respect the past’
….but they’ve totally the idea of where the price point for cheap synths should be. It’s a win for the cash strapped consumer

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By: christian thompson https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1531116 Sat, 01 Feb 2025 10:42:56 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1531116 Behringer is doing in the 2020s what Korg and Roland did in 80s…. Making affordable versions of expensive synths.
Exciting times.

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By: ParaCooper https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1531080 Fri, 31 Jan 2025 21:53:47 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1531080 In reply to TimS.

I do not think Behringer really is that good at making money. They must be subsidised by the chinese state! As their products even in China costs just a little less to make than what they sell them for! I understand that they need to sell a hell of a lot of instruments just to cover their costs!

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By: Walking The Line Between 10 and 11 https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530759 Tue, 28 Jan 2025 19:57:20 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530759 In reply to Max Ventura.

Behringer is already a household name. Walk into any church that does music and you’ll not find Jesus, but Behringer šŸ™‚

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By: Tony Collins https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530710 Tue, 28 Jan 2025 13:57:59 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530710 In reply to TimS.

More than a car – when I was a kid in the 80s, a Fairlight cost more than my parents paid for a 3-bedroom house!

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By: Max Ventura https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530630 Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:26:04 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530630 IMHO, Behringer is undeniably saturating the market while still producing very interesting, usable and fun synths. Saturating the market means the smaller startup companies, many if them located in Europe, see their potential customer base shrink more and more, whereas Behringer is quickly becoming a household name such as Samsung or Sony. Personally, I don’t see how could any professional – or even amateur – synth user make use of such ancient behemoths like a DX1 or a Sequential Prophet in any form, shape or version, given the fact that a modern synth can replicate WITHOUT A DOUBT AND WITHOUT ANYONE BEING THE WISER all those sounds bar none. Heck, on a single I recorded 20 years ago solely using a Roland MC505 groovebox I was asked multiple times by “connoisseurs” what version of the Minimoog had I used for the lead, LOL…
But saturating the market means stealing jobs, and that issue had to be addressed sooner or later.

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By: SNO King https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530607 Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:05:51 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530607 As someone who really loves ā€œany soundsā€ I have found it a treat that Behringer has gone and carried a torch carried by many others in the past even Dave Smith himself envied Moog and added the ladder filter too. Roland includes the Sequential FIlter, THe Moog filter and the SH filter on the new Jupiters but no one cares… its music. I watched all of this from two continents as a music and gear nut. Behringer and I are the same age thereabouts and during the time we were growing up, gear was completely out of reach. I can’t afford a $25,000 Jupiter 8. I had to sell my Jupiter-Xm to pay the bills.. Im settling for a used JD-Xi broken on Reverb that I fixed, and picked up a new MS-1 for the same price and together having a blast!. Having some actual ARP 2500 modules??? OMG?? You can’t imagine the significance of it at all. To have a small piece even if its a clone or replicant of the the CLose Encounters of the Third Kind synth…. Oh Yeah…. (YELLO)… You take the notion of having it for granted. I think what Uli did, is what everyone should be doing. I want an electric version 57 Chevy from the original blueprints in aluminum.. why not? Or a 1978 Trans Am… who cares… Being able to plug in a computer and filter it all through an ARP 2500 clone like Pete Townsend did… thats just a dream come true. Especially for a kid who never had a hit album or record deal, but had fun instead. Made sound, so that my music was unique. a 16 voice Jupiter with a bank of effects… and USB… come on.. that filter alone costs $200 used and thats a clone… Be nice… make music… have fun…

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By: TimS https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530576 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:39:09 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530576 In reply to Flatus.

LOL. I work in the pharmaceutical industry. What do you think a generic drug is?
Generic drugs are typically not exactly the same as the branded drugs that have come off patent. Generic drug makers only have to demonstrate efficacy equivalency of the active pharmaceutical ingredient(s) API to FDA, and they rarely have to go through any type of clincial trial. Other ingredients in the generics are not subject to this requirement and often vary greatly using cheaper ingredients to keep the costs of the generics down. This is why some people who take a branded drug and then switch to a generic version which is “the same” have reactions with the generics not experienced with the original, branded drug. They react to the non-API, lower quality cheaper ingredients.

The branded drug manufacturer is the one that spent huge dollars to develop a drug, and while it’s on patent are the only ones who can sell it (unless they license it to another manufacturer). But when the branded drug’s patent is over, it falls off the “patent cliff” and generic drug manufacturers jump in and produce a version of that drug. This is why companies that make branded drugs are ALWAYS trying to develop new drugs (and sometimes invent new conditions to treat with new drugs; that is known in the industry as disease mongering). They are seeking to replace the revenue stream lost to generic manufacturers.

When you use a generic instead of a branded drug, you and your insurance company are sticking it to the branded drug manufacturer that spent the time and money to develop that drug. It’s wrong to do it with synths but okay for you to do it with drugs and thousands of other products?.

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By: Flatus https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530566 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 16:19:11 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530566 In reply to TimS.

You’re confusing actual clones with knockoffs, Tim. Nobody wants to buy knockoff drugs!

If you want to be a Behringer apologist, you need to have arguments that actually makes sense.

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By: TimS https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530547 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 12:45:55 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530547 In reply to New Ignis.

Remember that the next time you take a generic prescription drug instead of paying more for the branded prescription drug.

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By: Walking The Line Between 10 and 11 https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530523 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:10:32 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530523 In reply to TimS.

People mad cause they overpaid for the synths. Did I get ripped off? No, it’s these peasants that are wrong!

Can’t wait for Oberheim Two-Voice. Saw one on reverb for $14,000 lol…

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By: Shok https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530517 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 01:01:52 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530517 Thanks for covering this and I miss you.

Much love from Uncle Shok

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By: S-Trigger Dave https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530478 Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:01:23 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530478 I don’t want for B to start making solid instruments because then I’d have to give up being butt hurt all the time. šŸ˜›

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By: Permanent_username https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/01/24/behringer-showcases-plans-to-co-opt-yamaha-roland-sequential-legacies-at-2025-namm-show/#comment-1530408 Sat, 25 Jan 2025 16:39:51 +0000 https://www.synthtopia.com/?p=146949#comment-1530408 In reply to synthhead.

That’s a good dodge. My comment was based on the question of why is it necessary to write an entire page comment defending why B is so good?
I’m quite aware of the thousands of B posts you’ve landed on each and every side of the argument – debate is like that! Both things can be true.
Can you stop holding my comments for review? Maybe you are spamming your own site with 7 b posts yesterday and are projecting that I am the troll spammer? But it’s actually You? Just a thought.

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