More opinion on it at https://factotumo.com/2016/02/allihoopa-and-the-fat-part-of-the-funnel/

“what we need more of is definitely social networks”

I’m hearing sarcasm in that comment, but I the current batch of social networks for music making all fail because they are tied to a single vendor.

I think they’ll continue to fail unless someone comes up with one that can be integrated into anyone’s app. Look what has happened with Ableton Link. It’s only been around for what, a few months, and already people consider it a ‘must have’ feature.

By that logic, you could say that nothing that Buchla or Moog did was innovative or pioneering.

If you don’t see interesting and innovative work happening with iPad music apps, you’re not paying attention.

Thanks for the clarification. I was hoping they weren’t abandoning the desktop platform!

That refers to Reason support of Allihoopa – not support for Reason itself.

Does that seriously concern any other reason users? Does this mean to be discontinued?

Philosophically true. Anyone with talent can create with what’s at hand, but why would a serious musician or artist limit their creative expression by using rudimentary tools? Figure supports a drum beat, simple baseline, and a mono synth noodle. Its ‘anyone can do it’ design constrains you in musical style and performance. Pros want and need more.

Bookshelf Billy 🙂

I agree.
It’s a stupid IKEA name.

one of the cool things about 70s technology is an an open minded idea of what constitutes a musical sound or workflow. Much of that was lost as the minimoog architecture became the norm and many software synths are still stuck with a vco -> vcf -> vca + adsr and some modulation options as a structure.

the odyssey, ms-20, and modular synths open up doors to sonic possibilities that were shut by hardware synths of more recent vintage as manufacturers catered to the most common sounds people made. Software does open some neat directions up (sample manipulation, granular synthesis, etc.) but I think many of these calls for new approaches to synthesis are from people looking for new presets instead of taking the time to learn the fundamentals behind synthesis and use the ideas behind the tools instead of just pushing buttons.

back to the topic at hand… what we need more of is definitely social networks..

Professional tools don’t make the amateur user a professional any more than an app like Figure or Take makes a professional an amateur. It ain’t what you got it’s the way that you use it – to borrow a phrase from Terry Hall – and the results that you get.

What you’re both describing isn’t “pioneering” or “innovation”, it’s translation. Animoog is a mashup of transwave and vector synthesis with a touch interface modeled on the Buchla LEM218 and PPG WaveGenerator is wavetable and vector with a similar interface. Now if you’re arguing that the innovation is economies of scale, in that you can now get an app that sounds Moog-ish or PPG-ish for the price of a coffee, then no argument.