Comments on: Camel Audio Alchemy Lives On In GarageBand

By: Baddcr

Baddcr — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:50:03 +0000

Yay – The Camel lives!

Lets hope Apple do the right thing with this and make it available as an AU for Mac and one of the first for their newly announced AU release for iOS!

Gotta dream right?

Not holding my breath though… maybe one day though 🙂

By: RabidBat

RabidBat — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 21:48:25 +0000

In reply to iMan. The guys who make the products don't own the company. They are not the same guys who hand over the product to the multinational corporation for gutting and "simplification".

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:12:02 +0000

camels owner has f’d over PC owners.. he totally did us over and I hope he realises none of us are happy after spending and SUPPORTING with camel.. would I have bought it all IF I knew they were gonna be so sly ? nope…

no notice to buy libs if you haven’t got them etc.

I think it was sly how the whole deal went thru.. and showed sod all care for end users.. again apple do an “emagic” again.. hence why I’ll never buy a mac..

I think it was underhand how it was done, and if the ex owner and apple think not.. then that says a LOT about their “ethics”

By: Fungo McGurk

Fungo McGurk — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:12:33 +0000

Logic has proven to be the best platform for me, so I am crossing my fingers hard to see Alchemy appear, especially with the same GUI I am used to. I’d like to keep the libraries I bought, but it remains to be seen how or IF Apple would pay the sound developers, such that ALL of that ka-pow comes to the table. It’d be a drag to see those superior sounds evaporate and the new sounds be so EDM, the synth loses ground. Its a new deal, so let’s see how it unfolds.
I want to defend Logic’s in-house synths a little. The ES2 GUI *does* feel too crowded at times, but its still a killer VA *because* it has some reach, like the multimode filter and vector options. Sculpture also sports a cramped GUI, but its a totally useable physical modeler that often surprises me. Most of all, I LIKE the basic nature of the EXS24 sampler. If I need multiple Bezier envelope curves, I’ll buy Serum, but 5- and 6-stage envelopes are plenty for most of my doings. The EXS and Alchemy paired are huge. Some seem unaware of it, but the EXS will accept Soundfonts and does a bit of conversion trickery that also allows for Akai and a few other formats. I’ve taken the time to buy sets from various places and sampled hardware into it, too. That work = a pretty hefty library, all under one roof at a click. So get what works for YOU, not me, but once you put the time into a synth or sampler, the arguments get a bit fuzzy as they show more of their strengths. If the ES2 is “long in the tooth,” so is the ARP Odyssey, yet its making an amusing resurgence because it makes you SQUEEE musically, not because its GUI massages your naughty giblets. You have to spend some time with its quirky modulation scheme or it’ll make you its BITCH! 😛

By: Raphael

Raphael — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:38:02 +0000

In reply to andres. I have no experience of Logic, only garageband on iPad. It does look and feel like it was made by grandpa and it's clear they aren't hip. They would benefit from partnering with a proper synth coding team. Thinking about it, the best description I can think of for Garageband would be: What would a DAW look like if made by Disney studios? All that's missing is Mickey's face on the control panel. I don't think Garageband is bad, it's just not very up to date in style or execution. Stripping down and incorporating Alchemy won't make things any better because Alchemy Garage will be a hollow shell of its former self.

By: sjaak van dam

sjaak van dam — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:58:28 +0000

In reply to iMan. A ton of money? Who said that... Ever talked to a indie plugin dev let alone to Alchemy? How much do you think these guys make?

By: andres

andres — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:08:38 +0000

People will always complain. I have Logic and personally welcome the addition of ANY new synth. They need to step it up and this is a step in the right direction.

By: Raphael

Raphael — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:05:53 +0000

In reply to Not A Rabbit. I had considered working a hip hop reference in there too but I got lazy.

By: Ian Copeland

Ian Copeland — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:58:08 +0000

In reply to Not A Rabbit. Hipsters needing hip replacements. Too rich. It was funny when Kat Dennings said it on "2 Broke Girls" and it's funny here too.

By: Not A Rabbit

Not A Rabbit — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:37:06 +0000

In reply to Raphael. "GarageBand was built for hipsters by hipsters who need hip replacements"- classic line! Resisting poor follow on references to hip hop.

By: Raphael

Raphael — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:03:09 +0000

This will be nothing like Alchemy. This is like Microsoft stripping everything out of Flight Sim X and creating an arcade simulator with just one small island to fly over and 3 aircraft.

“Apple says the update will give GarageBand “100 EDM? and Hip Hop?inspired synth sounds.”

You can forget any of the sound sets from alchemy. Garageband was built for hipsters by hipsters who need hip replacements.

By: Jon Cotton

Jon Cotton — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:00:37 +0000

In reply to amplifierx. You can resize all plugin windows in Logic X. Just give it a try.

By: iMan

iMan — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:14:45 +0000

In reply to RabidBat. Remind me why I should shed a tear for someone that sold their company to Apple in order to make a ton of money?

By: AnalOG

AnalOG — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:05:49 +0000

In reply to stub. I actually prefer stability vs the annual upgrade money grabs that a lot of companies are going to. Also, the Logic Pro price still kills anything out there.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 03:20:47 +0000

In reply to gridsleep. This is excellent news because I have invested close to $1000 in Alchemy Complete and bought extra sound library's but I need the "Iceland" library. Now I get to buy it here in the future! Sweet!